:
We have exhausted our supply of needle part parts to perform this upgrade so it
is no longer available. However, we will continue to make this information
available for those folks who are still suffering from calibration issues on
2002 Summits.
2002 Summit 800s suffer from well-documented calibration issues, with
the two most noticeable being poor running quality and throttle response in
the mid-range and aggressive deceleration when the throttle is released. The
carburetion issue exists at all altitudes, but seems to get extremely
obnoxious around the 8,000' - 9,000' mark. At 10,000' and up, where
Colorado's deep snow exists and Xtreme tests extensively, the sled is
particularly unpleasant to ride.
Carburetion: After a brief examination of Polaris and Ski-Doo carbs,
both essentially the same carburetor produced by Mikuni, we noted an
interesting difference. Polaris uses a needle jet with the traditional
"hood" on it, while Ski-Doo elected not to. Since the Polaris sleds run as
good as they ever have in the mid-range and the Summits do not, we wondered
if that missing hood could be part of the issue. In order to test the
theory, we began working on our 2003 Summits, which also happen to come with
a hooded jet. In our water tank, the 2003 calibration seemed vastly
improved, with only a slight rich gurgle in the mid-range and almost no
hesitation under snap throttle acceleration. We wondered, then, how bad a
2003 would calibrate with 2002 carbs? To find out, we promptly installed a
set of 2002 carbs on the 2003. In the water with the sled under load, with
the 2002 carbs installed on the 2003, the 2003 had difficulty even picking
up RPM in a snap-throttle situation. More often than not, the sled would
simply die all together if you kept the throttle mashed. That indicated that
the 2002 carbs were incapable of delivering enough fuel for acceleration,
while the 2003 carbs did so easily, without being overly rich at steady
state throttle.
With that knowledge in hand, we began to look for a reasonable way to
change the needle jets, so that replacing the carbs would not be necessary.
Luckily, with the help of Joe Dispirito in New York,
we arrived at a solution for replacing the needle jets. The solution remains
fairly complex and time consuming as the carburetors must be completely
disassembled in order to replace needle jets that were never designed to be
removed. Fortunately, it's still more economical than replacing the entire
rack. With the process of modifying the carbs done, we could begin
calibrating the new carbs, both in stock and RMX form. We attempted to make
the new carbs work with DPM, but the programming is so rich in the mid-range
to try and cover up the lean bog, that we couldn't mechanically lean the
jetting far enough to make the sleds run correctly. Thus, our solution
involves removing the DPM, venting the carbs to the airbox, replacing main
jets, pilot jets, needle jets, needles, and resetting the fuel screw. With
all of that changed, the sled now gurgles significantly less and responds
when you smack the throttle. In stock form, you can still hunt for the lean
spot and find it occasionally, but in all our test riding, it never bogged
while riding normally. In order to calibrate the main jets, we ran the sled
for about two miles at wide open throttle down a hard packed road
repeatedly. We're not sure where you would ride for longer than that at full
throttle, but if you do, it'd be a good idea to burp the throttle
occasionally. In order to make the sled run right in three feet of powder,
the jetting has to be fairly lean, meaning a little caution when trail
riding is in order.
Why does it work? It's helpful to consider how carburetors function to
get a better understanding of the problem with the stock carbs. As the
piston starts back up its stroke, having gone through bottom dead center,
effective crank case volume grows, thus causing a vacuum in the crankcase
and intake tract. It is this differential between the low pressure in the
throat of the carb and the constant pressure being applied to the float
bowls that causes gasoline to rush up through the needle jet and mix with
incoming air on its way to the crankcase. Needle jets are normally built
with a "hood" on the top of them so that air coming through the carb must go
around and over the hood, thus causing a venturi effect much like the wing
of an airplane. It is because of this venturi that the area directly above
the float bowls inside the hood sees an even greater pressure differential
and increases the "pull" on the fuel in the float bowl. Since the 2002
Summit carbs lack the hood, that means the pressure differential between the
float bowl and the throat of the carb is limited. This condition is referred
to as lack of signal. Essentially, it makes the carbs very difficult to tune
because the pressure differential is so low that even whopping jetting
changes result in very small changes in fuel flow. When you combine low
signal carburetors with our high altitude air that has the molecules spread
out, you have made a bad situation even worse and the signal is further
degraded. Furthermore, two stroke engines are far less efficient at lower
RPM because they lack the pumping action of the tuned pipe, which makes the
carburetion problems more pronounced in the mid-range between 4500 and 5500
RPM. The final complication for mid-range carburetion is that there is a
real possibility that you are likely to abruptly pull the throttle open,
thus giving the engine a huge shot of air. In a properly tuned combination,
you would have enough signal that as the slide is lifted and air volume
increases, fuel would be picked up and carried into the motor as well. In
this case, all you get is a lot of air with not enough fuel, which results
in a huge bog and the rider inspecting the windshield from the wrong side of
the sled. If the fundamental design problem in the carburetor can't be
fixed, your only choice to get around the lean bog is to give the engine
more fuel so that when the throttle is opened rapidly, there's already
enough fuel in the engine to mix with the huge shot of air. Unfortunately,
that means for those of us who actually ride around in the trees or down a
tight trail, the engine gurgles and carries on because it doesn't need all
that fuel for smooth steady-state throttle operation. This is also the
reason the fuel mileage is so bad - if you rode your sled pinned all day,
the mileage wouldn't be as bad. However, if you're powder riding and
boondocking, you spend a fair amount of time at the mid throttle position
which is too rich. Unfortunately, with the stock carbs, if you lean out the
mid-range to make the engine run properly at part throttle, the lean bog
gets even worse. If you jet so rich that you don't get the bog, you can't
carry enough gas to ride all day. Plus, the amount of unburned gas coming
out of the pipe is enough to make you nauseous. The compromise, then, is to
leave the jetting somewhere in the middle, where they gurgle incessantly in
the trees and still hesitate if you mash the gas. Last year, we found that
our favorite altitude fixes of more compression and a more efficient exhaust
pipe helped, but they couldn't overcome the underlying carburetor problem.
Clutching: With the carburetion fixed, we moved on to the clutching.
Last year, we spent over $2000 on every conceivable aftermarket
super-whiz-bang clutching component on the market trying to make the sleds
faster. The bottom line was and is that if you have two sleds that turn the
right RPM, no matter how you get there in the clutching, they run the same.
Magnesium arms, titanium springs, roller driven clutches - none of it made
the sled any faster. Some of them did make the sled feel different, but
never made enough difference that we could recommend that you spend money on
them. We even ran with sleds that had custom ground ramps and different
springs - again if the two sleds turned the same RPM, they ran the same. The
challenge with Ski-Doo clutching is that it is not terribly consistent from
one condition to another. If you take a sled down a hard packed trail and
then dive off in the powder, you will lose about 200 rpm even at the same
altitude. Our inclination is always to tune for powder riding, because we
assume that's why you own a Summit. The problem is, though, if you click
your sled up far enough to hold RPM in three feet of snow at 12,000', you'll
chop off about eight mph on the hard packed road at 9,000', because the sled
overrevs and does not operate at peak power RPM. By the same token, however,
if you click down and set the engine right at 7850 RPM for trail riding,
when you get up high and load the sled on a hill, you'll be lucky to see
7500 RPM and it'll be a dog. The bottom line is that if you want to keep the
sled running right all the time, you will have to adjust the clickers for
conditions - there is NO one clicker setting that works everywhere.
Having been disavowed of the idea that there was some magical clutching
fix, we moved on to addressing the biggest driveability complaint about the
clutching. That issue is that the sled slows down unnaturally, almost like a
four stroke with engine braking. When Ski-Doo installed electronic reverse,
the driven clutch had to be redesigned. Like all reverse enabled clutches,
they ended up with a rear spring that only works on compression and is not
torsionally wound like driven springs have always been. In order to try and
keep the sled turning RPM, they built a monster spring for the rear clutch.
Unfortunately, the spring is so strong that it limits the sled's ability to
coast. For 2003, Ski-Doo replaced the driven spring with one that's much
lighter. Trouble is, they also installed an HO engine with significantly
more power that could pull the lighter spring and still turn the proper RPM.
Our solution was to put a stiffer spring in the primary to get our RPM back
and install the new spring in the rear so the sled would coast. Overall,
it's a much better solution. You can run click #3 for trail riding or in
hard snow, #4 works well in moderate loads up to about 10,500', and #5 still
turned RPM even at 11,000' in deep powder for us. As was mentioned earlier,
though, the difference in top speed between #3 and #5 is about eight mph, so
it's important to assess your conditions and tune appropriately.
With all the changes made in the clutching and jetting, we observed gas
mileage improvement from about 0.8 mpg when doing nothing but fast trail
riding to almost two mpg boondocking. The more time you spend in the
mid-range, the greater the improvement. Once again, how you ride will impact
exactly how much improvement you see.
With the updates, the RMX kit also works that much better. There is no
doubt that the compression makes the sled more fun to ride, especially in
the trees or the bumps. As is always the case with RMX kits, it's not about
huge horsepower, it's about driveability making the sled truly more
enjoyable to ride. All things being exactly equal, the kit is about three
lengths faster in a quarter mile than a stocker, which makes sense for a
three to four actual horsepower gain on the mountain. With the updates
installed, you can actually begin to enjoy the Summit chassis because the
engine isn't constantly doing something annoying. If you have any further questions, please let us know!
